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Sunday, October 04, 2020

Ray Shenton's Tuba

I noted in John Potts’s story that he said that Ray Shenton’s tuba was the oldest in Western Europe. Ray is my Dad and I have his tuba now (with all the old rubber bands and Gaffer tape holding it together) so he doesn’t feel tempted to have a blow and knock himself out.

I looked up the serial number on the Boosey and Hawkes website and it looks like it was made in January 1918. Dad tells me he got it from Lawrence McBriarty in about 1961, who rescued it for him from the territorial band headquarters on Barrack Road when they disbanded.

He did have another tuba before this one that was bought by Colin Hopper for £3 from a junk shop at the bottom of Westgate Road.
Mark Shenton

4 comments :

NeilC said...

Wonderful Story , thank you so much for sharing it with us .

carstairs said...

Although there are a lot older tubas in captivity. I used my little H B Jay c1909 for many gigs as it was easier to carry than my huge Conn recording bass. There's a really ancient Belgian tuba in the attic. Rita Wheatley gave me John's old tuba ( c1910) which I had restored - including a missing valve! Some of my friends regularly play instruments from the 1860s.

However, Ray Shenton was without doubt the hottest player in the North East.

Lance said...

I need some clarification here. Despite working in the music industry for over 30 years, I had little to do with tubas. However, in my youthful brass band days, there were Eb and BBb basses that were referred to as tubas and, somewhere along the line I came across references to a bombardon. To further complicate the issue, sousaphone players were often listed as playing tuba. Words of wisdom please Carstairs.

carstairs said...

One of the first tubaswas a long trumpet used the Romans! A valved tuba was invented in 1835 by Wieprecht. It quickly replaced the old Serpents and Ophicleides. They come in all shapes and sizes. By the 1860s the tuba family ranged from the Bass in C or Bb ( a tenor tuba) pitched the same as a tenor trombone down to 18ft BBb Contrabass. There was some snobbery in England where the player of an Orchestral tuba in F looked down on the Brass/Military bandsman's Eb and Bb bass - often termed a Bombardon. A circular bass or helicon , with the bell behind the player's left shoulder was often used in Military bands. The Sousaphone is simply a circular bass with the bell pointing forwards - Americans usually refer to it as a 'tooba'.
Many of the early Jazz musicians played brass bass, often doubling string bass and even bass Sax. I'm sure you could name many of them, from Wellman Braud, Billy Taylor to Red Callendar.

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