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Sullivan Fortner: ''I always judge it by the bass player: If the bass player is happy, it's going to be a good night". (DownBeat, February 2025).

The Things They Say!

This is a good opportunity to say thanks to BSH for their support of the jazz scene in the North East (and beyond) - it's no exaggeration to say that if it wasn't for them many, many fine musicians, bands and projects across a huge cross section of jazz wouldn't be getting reviewed at all, because we're in the "desolate"(!) North. (M & SSBB on F/book 23/12/24)

Postage

17805 (and counting) posts since we started blogging 17 years ago. 126 of them this year alone and, so far, 51 this month (Feb.16).

From This Moment On ...

February 2025

Mon 24: Harmony Brass @ Cullercoats Crescent Club. 1:00pm. Free.
Mon 24: Michael Young Trio @ The Engine Room, Sunderland. 6:30pm. Free.

Tue 25: ?

Wed 26: Vieux Carré Jazzmen @ Cullercoats Crescent Club. 1:00pm. Free.
Wed 26: Darlington Big Band @ Darlington & Simpson Rolling Mills Social Club, Darlington. 7:00pm. Free. Rehearsal session (open to the public).
Wed 26: Take it to the Bridge @ The Globe, Newcastle. 7:30pm. Free.

Thu 27: Jamie McCredie @ The Globe, Newcastle. 8:00pm.

Fri 28: Classic Swing @ Cullercoats Crescent Club. 1:00pm. Free. THIS WEEK ONLY JAMES BIRKETT (guitar)!
Fri 28: Luis Verde Quartet @ The Gala, Durham. 1:00pm. £8.00. SOLD OUT!
Fri 28: Spilt Milk @ St. James’ STACK, Newcastle. 7:00-9:00pm. Free. Nolan Brothers (vocal harmonies).
Fri 28: Castillo Nuevo Orquesta @ Pilgrim, Newcastle. 7:30pm (doors). £8.00.
Fri 28: Knats @ Lubber Fiend, Newcastle. 7:30pm. £11.50. (inc bf.). Album launch gig. Support act TBC.
Fri 28: Black is the Color of My Voice @ The Gala, Durham. 7:30pm. Apphia Campbell’s one-woman show inspired by the life of Nina Simone, performed by Florence Odumosu.
Fri 28: Great North Big Band Jazz Festival: Musicians Unlimited @ Park View Community Centre, Chester-le-Street. 8:00pm. £10.00. (Weekend ticket £20.00., available on the door). Day 1/3. Musicians Unlimited in concert.
Fri 28: Redwell @ Prohibition Bar, Newcastle. 8:00pm. A ‘Jar on the Bar’ gig.

MARCH 2025

Sat 01: Great North Big Band Jazz Festival @ Park View Community Centre, Chester-le-Street. 11:00am. £15.00. Day 2/3.
Sat 01: TJ Johnson Band @ St Augustine’s Parish Centre, Darlington. 12:30pm. £10.00.
Sat 01: Play Jazz! workshop @ The Globe, Newcastle. 1:30pm. £25.00. Tutor: Steve Glendinning. Get your funk on! Enrol at: learning@jazz.coop.
Sat 01: Shunyata Improvisation Group @ The Watch House, Cullercoats. 2:00-3:30pm. Free.
Sat 01: Ray Stubbs R&B All Stars @ Billy Bootleggers. Ouseburn, Newcastle. 4:00pm. Free.
Sat 01: Lapwing Jazz Trio @ Three Sheets to the Wind, Alnwick. 5:15pm or 5:45pm (times tbc). Part of the Alnwick Story Festival's music fringe programme: Free.
Sat 01: Struggle Buggy @ The Peacock, Sunderland. 6:00pm. Blues band.
Sat 01: Edison Herbert Trio @ The Vault, Darlington 7:00pm. Free.
Sat 01: Joseph O’Brien: The Ultimate Tribute to Frank Sinatra @ Fire Station, Sunderland. 7:30pm. O’Brien & seven piece band (inc. Wendy Kirkland, Jim Corry & Pat Sprakes).
Sat 01: Rendezvous Jazz @ Red Lion, Earsdon. 8:00pm. £3.00.
Sat 01: Jack & Jay’s Vintage Songbook @ Prohibition Bar, Newcastle. 8:00pm. A ‘Jar on the Bar’ gig.

Sun 02: Great North Big Band Jazz Festival @ Park View Community Centre, Chester-le-Street. 11:00am. £10.00. Day 3/3.
Sun 02: Smokin’ Spitfires @ The Cluny, Newcastle. 12:45pm. £7.50.
Sun 02: Nauta @ Central Bar, Gateshead. 2:00pm. £10.00.
Sun 02: Sax Choir @ The Globe, Newcastle. 2:00pm. Free (donations).
Sun 02: Side Café Orkestar @ Café Under the Spire, Derwentwater Road, Gateshead. 2:00pm. Free.
Sun 02: 4B @ The Ticket Office, Whitley Bay. 3:00pm. Free.
Sun 02: Milne Glendinning Band @ The White Room, Stanley. 6:30pm.
Sun 02: Bella by Barlight @ Prohibition Bar, Newcastle. 8:00pm. A ‘Jar on the Bar’ gig.
Sun 02: Ali Watson Quartet @ The Globe, Newcastle. 8:00pm.

Reviewers wanted

Whilst BSH attempts to cover as many gigs, festivals and albums as possible, to make the site even more comprehensive we need more 'boots on the ground' to cover the albums seeking review - a large percentage of which never get heard - report on gigs or just to air your views on anything jazz related. Interested? then please get in touch. Contact details are on the blog. Look forward to hearing from you. Lance

Thursday, November 05, 2009

The Schmazz Factor - The Cluny.

Result.
Best Overall Band: CARPUS TRIO (Pete Currie, pno; Nick Grimes, gtr; Victor Solana, dms.)
Best Individual Performance: Christian Alderson, perc. (Long Lonesome Go).
Best Individual Composition: Final tune by Harley Johnson Trio written by Ivan Scutt.
(Click above for photo.)
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I'm frequently at loggerheads with cricket umpires, football referees and X Factor judges so it is no surprise that I disagreed with this decision. However, that is 3 judges against one listener so c'est la vie.
The question posed here was what is and what isn't jazz. Certainly Carpus Trio, the winning band, were more rock orientated than jazzified, Long Lonesome Go were pure and simply an improvising trio with only Harley Johnson's Trio having any semblance to being a jazz group.
Carpus had the most explosive start of any band in any genré I've ever heard and possibly this shell-shocked the judges into another millenium. That Carpus were tightly efficient can't be denied. However, they offered little variety to these ears. In fairness to them, they were ideal Cluny material.
Long Lonesome Go played one number that lasted for all of their 30 minute set and I breathed a sigh of relief when it was all over. Having said that, their drummer probably did deserve the Best Individual Performance award.
Finally, the Harley Johnson Trio - Harley on piano, Ivan Scutt, bass and Sid Wright, drums.
On paper the favourites and, if it had been a Corner House gig, surely runaway winners.
They played brilliantly and originally without even a trace of the Monkishness so associated with Harley.
Where they may have lost points was the strange decision to feature two bass and drum duets in the middle of a thirty minute set. With no disrespect to the two musicians, who are both excellent, this did cause things to flag slightly and there was a sense of lost momentum. In an hour long set they may have got away with it but not in such a short stint.
The final number, by bassist Scutt, the title of which I'm afraid to say I've forgotten, was a belter that I felt might just have swayed the judges but didn't quite. At least it won the best composition prize.
Nevertheless, an interesting attempt that hopefully will be repeated next year.
Lance.

4 comments :

Harley said...

Thanks for coming along on the night. Carpus Trio was defintely more associated with the Cluny - where that puts Harley Johnson then who knows - Chillingham perhaps? Maybe I would actually get more gigs doing that sort of 'minimalist' material but I'd rather just keep doing what I love to do instead of betraying the 'tradition' of jazz!

pawel said...

I thought the Long Lonesome Go were far the most innovative act; refusing to comform to the usual jazz cliches. They as least seemed to have a sense of humour about the occasion.
The review and the previous comment confirm my worst suspicions about the insularity and cliqueishness of the North East Jazz Scene. Jazz is not something that can be constrained to being perceived as either appropriate to the Cluny or the Chillingham or both or neither: it transcends such parochialism.Jazz and "tradition" should be anathema.
I expect we'll be hearing a lot more from the LLG: I concede that they need to be a lot tighter but they showed a wealth of ideas, originality, and a refusal to be derivative and to be intimidated by some fusty notion of what jazz "should" be.

Lance said...

To me, the beauty of jazz is that it can be all things to all men (and women). Far from being insular and cliquish I think jazz appreciation in whatever form is wider than it has ever been.
That I don't like everything I hear doesn't make me different to anyone else. The person who says he likes everything doesn't usually like anything.
Nevertheless, nothing written within these pages is written in stone and I'll happily beg to differ whilst acknowledging everyone has a right to their own opinion. That it's not my opinion doesn't make it wrong or right just different.
Long my jazz prosper on those differences.

Long Lonesome Go said...

The 'jazz/not jazz' argument that's as old as jazz itself! I guess you're always going to get it with an art form that is as strongly rooted in the opposite poles of 'tradition' and 'innovation', and is innovation one of the main traditions within jazz - you can go on forever.
For our part...
We knew we were going to be the least 'jazz' on the nights bill by most people's idea of 'jazz'. We were certainly the least consciously 'jazz' of the three acts. To my ears both Carpus and Harley trios were clearly stating where there respective jazz flags were planted (indeed my main criticism of both would be that they didn't stray very far from those flags, but hey). The Long Lonesome Go flag is sometimes near a Stan Tracy trio, sometimes nearer Bitches Brew, sometimes Evan Parker. Quite a lot of the time it's somewhere a way from any of those. So some nights we'll be less 'jazz' than others. I would ask however how much free improvisation, extended technique/soloing and syncopation are a part of 'jazz'.

The point is for anyone to like us or dislike us, or anyone, because of the noises we create is one thing. To like/dislike (or worse dismiss) anyone for the same can sound like someone saying 'that's not fair, they're not playing by the rules' and suggests a smallness of mind and narrowness of view, two things which, I think we're all agreed, have no place in jazz.

Pawel - thanks for the kind words, I hope we can live up to them. The cheque is in the post.

Harley - Keep doing what you love but remember the tradition of jazz is a history of betrayals, I wouldn't worry, she's a forgiving mistress. And if you think that the 'minimalist' guys are getting all the gigs... not in my experience they're not.

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