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16287 (and counting) posts since we started blogging 16 years ago. 169 of them this year alone and, so far, 41 this month (Mar 18).

From This Moment On ...

March

Thu 28: Vieux Carré Jazzmen @ The Holystone, Whitley Road, North Tyneside. 1:00pm. Free.
Thu 28: Gateshead Jazz Appreciation Society @ Gateshead Central Library, Gateshead. 2:30pm.
Thu 28: Richard Herdman Quartet @ Prohibition Bar, Newcastle. 8:00pm. A ‘Jar on the Bar’ gig.
Thu 28: Tees Hot Club @ Dorman’s Club, Middlesbrough. 8:30pm. Guests: Josh Bentham (alto sax); Alan Marshall (tenor sax); Neil Brodie (trumpet); Adrian Beadnell (bass); Graham Thompson (keys); Steve Hunter (drums).

Fri 29: FILM: Soul @ The Forum Cinema, Hexham. 12:30pm. Jazz-themed film animation.
Fri 29: Classic Swing @ Cullercoats Crescent Club. 1:00pm. Free.
Fri 29: Rendezvous Jazz @ The Monkseaton Arms. 1:00pm. Free.
Fri 29: New Orleans Preservation Jazz Band @ The Oxbridge Hotel, Stockton. 1:00pm. £5.00.
Fri 29: Abbie Finn Trio @ The Vault, Darlington. 6:00pm. Free. POSTPONED!
Fri 29: Thundercat @ Newcastle City Hall.
Fri 29: John Logan @ Prohibition Bar, Newcastle. 8:00pm. A ‘Jar on the Bar’ gig.

Sat 30: Papa G’s Troves @ Prohibition Bar, Newcastle. 8:00pm. A ‘Jar on the Bar’ gig.
Sat 30: Pete Tanton’s Cuba Libre @ Whitley Bay Library, York Road, Whitley Bay. 8:00pm.

Sun 31: 4B @ The Ticket Office, Whitley Bay Metro Station. 3:00pm. Free.
Sun 31: Ruth Lambert Trio @ Juke Shed, Union Quay, North Shields NE30 1HJ. 3:00pm. Free. Lambert, Alan Law & Paul Grainger.
Sun 31: Sid Jacobs & Tom Remon @ Prohibition Bar, Newcastle. 7:00pm. Free. A ‘Jar on the Bar’ gig. USA/London jazz guitar duo.
Sun 31: Bellavana @ The Globe, Newcastle. 8:00pm.

April
Mon 01: Harmony Brass @ Cullercoats Crescent Club. 1:00pm. Free.
Mon 01: Ray Stubbs R&B All Stars @ Billy Bootlegger’s, Ouseburn, Newcastle. 3:00pm. Free.

Tue 02: Jam session @ The Black Swan, Newcastle. 7:30pm. Free. House trio: Dean Stockdale, Paul Grainger, Abbie Finn.

Wed 03: Vieux Carré Jazzmen @ Cullercoats Crescent Club. 1:00pm. Free.
Wed 03: Darlington Big Band @ Darlington & Simpson Rolling Mills Social Club, Darlington. 7:00pm. Free. Rehearsal session (open to the public).
Wed 03: Take it to the Bridge @ The Globe, Newcastle. 7:30pm. Free.

Thursday, November 05, 2009

The Schmazz Factor - The Cluny.

Result.
Best Overall Band: CARPUS TRIO (Pete Currie, pno; Nick Grimes, gtr; Victor Solana, dms.)
Best Individual Performance: Christian Alderson, perc. (Long Lonesome Go).
Best Individual Composition: Final tune by Harley Johnson Trio written by Ivan Scutt.
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I'm frequently at loggerheads with cricket umpires, football referees and X Factor judges so it is no surprise that I disagreed with this decision. However, that is 3 judges against one listener so c'est la vie.
The question posed here was what is and what isn't jazz. Certainly Carpus Trio, the winning band, were more rock orientated than jazzified, Long Lonesome Go were pure and simply an improvising trio with only Harley Johnson's Trio having any semblance to being a jazz group.
Carpus had the most explosive start of any band in any genré I've ever heard and possibly this shell-shocked the judges into another millenium. That Carpus were tightly efficient can't be denied. However, they offered little variety to these ears. In fairness to them, they were ideal Cluny material.
Long Lonesome Go played one number that lasted for all of their 30 minute set and I breathed a sigh of relief when it was all over. Having said that, their drummer probably did deserve the Best Individual Performance award.
Finally, the Harley Johnson Trio - Harley on piano, Ivan Scutt, bass and Sid Wright, drums.
On paper the favourites and, if it had been a Corner House gig, surely runaway winners.
They played brilliantly and originally without even a trace of the Monkishness so associated with Harley.
Where they may have lost points was the strange decision to feature two bass and drum duets in the middle of a thirty minute set. With no disrespect to the two musicians, who are both excellent, this did cause things to flag slightly and there was a sense of lost momentum. In an hour long set they may have got away with it but not in such a short stint.
The final number, by bassist Scutt, the title of which I'm afraid to say I've forgotten, was a belter that I felt might just have swayed the judges but didn't quite. At least it won the best composition prize.
Nevertheless, an interesting attempt that hopefully will be repeated next year.
Lance.

4 comments :

Harley said...

Thanks for coming along on the night. Carpus Trio was defintely more associated with the Cluny - where that puts Harley Johnson then who knows - Chillingham perhaps? Maybe I would actually get more gigs doing that sort of 'minimalist' material but I'd rather just keep doing what I love to do instead of betraying the 'tradition' of jazz!

pawel said...

I thought the Long Lonesome Go were far the most innovative act; refusing to comform to the usual jazz cliches. They as least seemed to have a sense of humour about the occasion.
The review and the previous comment confirm my worst suspicions about the insularity and cliqueishness of the North East Jazz Scene. Jazz is not something that can be constrained to being perceived as either appropriate to the Cluny or the Chillingham or both or neither: it transcends such parochialism.Jazz and "tradition" should be anathema.
I expect we'll be hearing a lot more from the LLG: I concede that they need to be a lot tighter but they showed a wealth of ideas, originality, and a refusal to be derivative and to be intimidated by some fusty notion of what jazz "should" be.

Lance said...

To me, the beauty of jazz is that it can be all things to all men (and women). Far from being insular and cliquish I think jazz appreciation in whatever form is wider than it has ever been.
That I don't like everything I hear doesn't make me different to anyone else. The person who says he likes everything doesn't usually like anything.
Nevertheless, nothing written within these pages is written in stone and I'll happily beg to differ whilst acknowledging everyone has a right to their own opinion. That it's not my opinion doesn't make it wrong or right just different.
Long my jazz prosper on those differences.

Long Lonesome Go said...

The 'jazz/not jazz' argument that's as old as jazz itself! I guess you're always going to get it with an art form that is as strongly rooted in the opposite poles of 'tradition' and 'innovation', and is innovation one of the main traditions within jazz - you can go on forever.
For our part...
We knew we were going to be the least 'jazz' on the nights bill by most people's idea of 'jazz'. We were certainly the least consciously 'jazz' of the three acts. To my ears both Carpus and Harley trios were clearly stating where there respective jazz flags were planted (indeed my main criticism of both would be that they didn't stray very far from those flags, but hey). The Long Lonesome Go flag is sometimes near a Stan Tracy trio, sometimes nearer Bitches Brew, sometimes Evan Parker. Quite a lot of the time it's somewhere a way from any of those. So some nights we'll be less 'jazz' than others. I would ask however how much free improvisation, extended technique/soloing and syncopation are a part of 'jazz'.

The point is for anyone to like us or dislike us, or anyone, because of the noises we create is one thing. To like/dislike (or worse dismiss) anyone for the same can sound like someone saying 'that's not fair, they're not playing by the rules' and suggests a smallness of mind and narrowness of view, two things which, I think we're all agreed, have no place in jazz.

Pawel - thanks for the kind words, I hope we can live up to them. The cheque is in the post.

Harley - Keep doing what you love but remember the tradition of jazz is a history of betrayals, I wouldn't worry, she's a forgiving mistress. And if you think that the 'minimalist' guys are getting all the gigs... not in my experience they're not.

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